That's funny, because when i try to "build" a inner vision of a close individual, they are always looking like comic representations, with constantly morphing faces, in dim light, very 2D, like printed on cardboard. They never look like they'd look to my eye IRL. But i had the ability to remember everything i had ever read under hyperfocus. I lost that, though, while psychologists say my aging brain needs mostly all the power to stay "high functioning", and it also quite feels that way.
That's interesting. My internal vision though is zero. Nothing. Black. Zip. I don't even see anything in my dreams. Almost ever. I can count the number of times that I've seen something in my dreams on one hand. And every time I woke up in a cold sweat, hyperventilating. Lol
That's a very interesting topic. I am similar to @cAPSLOCK, so the topic is intriguing to me.
Interestingly, I don't feel any deficiency at all (don't miss it) and to me it helped to study some abstract concepts without a need for visualization.
The absence of the "mind's eye" in a small % of individuals is called 'aphantasia' and it first came to focus as late as 2015 when one of the first serious research paper was published on it (initially it was described as early as 1880).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AphantasiaMany people were shocked to learn that their own ability or inability to visualize objects was not universal.
In short; if someone asks to imagine an apple with closed eyes, some people see a nice jucy apple, colored and everything, some see a sketch and some "see" nothing. The vision was fine in all tested individuals.
True "aphantasics" are close to 2-4 % of the population (depending on the extent of it, maybe just 1% for full aphantasics) and yes, they sometimes don't "see" dreams as well, but not in all cases.
AI:
While the general population has about 2-4% aphantasia, a significant portion of people with aphantasia (
over 20%) work in science, computing, or math, suggesting a higher concentration than average in STEM fields, possibly due to strengths in processing complex, abstract information rather than mental imagery.
Sometimes, I think that this is a protective brain property...for example if the brain "sees" some nightmares, perhaps shutting down the "mind's eye" is a way to escape this.
I had a friend in grad school who was an exact opposite-he had hyperphantasia and said that he basically had two full life's: one during the day time and another during sleep where he had adventures every night with color, interesting themes, etc, like a movie. I was a bit jealous about this aspect of it as I typically don't recall dreams, with a few interesting exceptions.
David Hume springs to mind.
A relevant, interesting video:
YouTube � Alex O'Connor - Why ChatGPT Can't Draw a Full Glass of Wineinteresting.
I see dreams
I can occasionally fuck with them as I realize they are dreams.
But if I close my eyes and picture an object I see nothing but dots.
which is what I see if I close my eyes and make no effort to picture something.
I see dreams too. Often intricate dreams, complex enough to be movie scripts. Usually horror, mystery, and also drama, often dealing with loss, and an overwhelming desire and struggle to be/reach/do something.
When I close my eyes and picture an object, I can visualize the object, as if I was looking at it with my eyes. I can "see" forms, shapes, colors, and I can also "hear" sounds, "smell" odors and "feel" touches.
OK, maybe you're trying to literally use your shut eyes to see. If I do this, I also see dots, in the form of noise. This is similar to the noise in a film or digital camera in low/no light. But, try to picture something, and "see" it with your brain. I'm guessing that most people can "see" like this. But there are some who can't (aphantasia).
if I am high on acid or shrooms I can see lots of small images with my eyes closed but they are more like a lot of cartoon gifs. maybe 20 to 35 or a bit more and they can move slowly or flicker a bit.
more or less random with no way for me to move or change them but if I open my eyes I see the so called real world.
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oh smoking tobacco started at 12 or 13 I think 12. there was this girl.
fast forward to 39 or 27 years later feb 29th 1996 I stopped.
Harder than gambling or any other drug for me to quit.
Patch saved the day.
and had only 1 side effect from the patch
super spectacular intense dreams.
Dream A me and the wife in bed going at it. really really really top notch fun
Dream B some one trying to kill me could be a person or in a war or a wild animal. absolutely terrifying
So I had action every night which dream would it be. This helped me not want to gamble a double bonus.
I used the patch for 6 weeks 1.5 pack 1.0 pack .5 pack ended them on the 28th and not more on the 29th.
Best thing I ever quit
what I see a smoker trying to defend nicotine:
BTCETFInvestor smoke that cigarette enjoy it.